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cpolys
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posted 10-11-2007 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpolys     Edit/Delete Message
Two quick questions for PCSOT examiners:
1. Are you currently reporting results on multiple issue examinations as SR and NSR.
2. If not, why?


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ckieso-iowa
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posted 11-07-2007 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ckieso-iowa   Click Here to Email ckieso-iowa     Edit/Delete Message
Yes I am as stated in the APA model policy.

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cpolys
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posted 11-08-2007 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpolys     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for the reply.

My primary interest regarding this topic of conversation is due in part to discussions I have had with various PCSOT examiners. Several examiners noted that reporting SR and NSR on multiple issue examinations presents a conflict, due in part to clients, contracts, etc. being unfamiliar with this terminology. Stated more frankly, their clientele specifically want to know if there is Deception Indicated or No Deception Indicated. However, it has been noted in discussions I have had with other examiners that in some states, reporting SR and NSR in lieu of DI and NDI, may be in direct conflict with state law.

Although I have not experienced these conflicts, there appear to be many that have. I'm interested in any feedback from individuals that have.

[This message has been edited by cpolys (edited 11-08-2007).]

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ckieso-iowa
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posted 11-08-2007 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ckieso-iowa   Click Here to Email ckieso-iowa     Edit/Delete Message
I believe that State law would take precedence, but am not sure. What I have done for clients, therapists, parole agents, etc. is explain to them (e-mail) the new terminology as explained in the APA model policy. They seemed to have adjusted well to this. After all this is a specialized profession that should be dictated by polygraph examiners, not by someone not involved in the field to decide how we report the multi issue results. According to the APA it is more accurate to report a multi issue test as SR or NSR than DI or NDI due to the various issues involved in a multi issue test.

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Barry C
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posted 11-08-2007 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
Out of curiosity, what do you tell them SR and NSR mean? According to ASTM, they correspond to DI and NDI. If so, then it would seem like a game of semantics. If a person is reported as SR or NSR, what does that tell you about truthfulness, if anything?

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ckieso-iowa
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posted 11-08-2007 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ckieso-iowa   Click Here to Email ckieso-iowa     Edit/Delete Message
I report that a question showed Significant Response and that there is a high probability that the person has not been truthful or cannot be determined as being truthful regarding that relevant question. You are right, in my opinion SR and NSR are essentially the same as DI or NDI, just not quite as definitive. Once again this is due to the conflict in a multi issue test that may occur for the examinee on which question is of most threat to them.

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cpolys
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posted 11-09-2007 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpolys     Edit/Delete Message
Barry you’re correct. They do correspond and that’s what they have been told. As Iowa pointed out, this should be dictated by examiners, per published standards, not dictated elsewhere. Thus the confusion.

If an industry standard, guideline, recommendation, etc. is published, is it not an individuals professional obligation to follow those standards?

Of course I don’t really need an answer to that question, nor do I feel the concern is with those on this board. It is an underlying issue in various aspects of our profession. Many individuals continue to argue that because they are unaware of various published standards, this precludes them from professional responsibility.

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